Subj:	TRAVELLER digest 339
Date:	95-07-06 21:45:05 EDT
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			    TRAVELLER Digest 339

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) your romance ad in USSR
oy V   A U@| Ol (Unverified)
	by David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA
  2) Re: Nukes
	by MDURRAN@aol.com
  3) Re: Beginner's confusion
	by merrick@Rt66.com (Merrick Burkhardt)
  4) Re: TRAVELLER digest 337
	by merrick@Rt66.com (Merrick Burkhardt)
  5) OLD digests
	by Bill Currie <BILLC@teleng1.tait.co.nz>

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 21:28:38 -0600
From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA
To: posix-testing@mindcraft.com, buckley@mordor.com,
Motorcycle@motorcycle.com,
Subject: your romance ad in USSR
oy V   A U@| Ol (Unverified)
Message-ID: <199507060340.XAA11326@Mithril.MPGN.COM>


       ##    meet women of the former USSR through romance ads    ##

     Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the
former Soviet Union.  Since that time I have received over 40 responses for
the $50 I mailed Olga.  (I believe she paid the newspapers something around 
$35 and kept the rest for her efforts.)
     I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal 
romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian
"bride"
catalog companies.
     If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact
Olga.  She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the 
former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you 
wish.  She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and 
other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia."
     Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as
a
florist in Kiev.  She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native 
languages of Russian and Ukrainian.
     I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an 
envelope and mail to a foreign country.  If you would rather send a letter of

inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions.  It takes about 16 days 
for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev.

Olga Kozmina
Dekabristov Street 5 - 178
Kiev 253121
Ukraine

     I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of 
newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does 
not bother to tamper.  I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev.  I am sorry 
that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much 
easier.
     I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail
which
 I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames.

Best Wishes,

David and Olga

     Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," 
she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel 
the net should not be used in this fashion.
     IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site.

peace. . .


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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 00:04:52 -0400
From: MDURRAN@aol.com
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: Nukes
Message-ID: <950706000450_108753822@aol.com>

>>why are all the ship-to-ship missiles nuclear-powered laser warheads? Why
doesn't anyone use simple nuclear warheads instead?<<
     
They are not PC(politically correct).  
It seems to me we have a rather large nuke going off all the time we call it
the sun.  It effects can be felt through our atmosphere and the radiation can
be a hazard.  At one time it was thought that to have the recoil from a gun
it needed the air to push against, it was proven that wasn't so.  
As for the volume of space involved give them a hit number and damage based
on the yield.  If one gets through your opponent would be sure to try and
kill every missile you launch.  Even a small nuke would cause a lot of damage
IF it contacts a ship. 

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:49:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: merrick@Rt66.com (Merrick Burkhardt)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: Beginner's confusion
Message-ID: <9507060549.AA02597@Rt66.com>

 
> Hello everybody,
 
Howdy!

> sorry for the stupid question, but I'm new both to Traveller and this 
> list. I just skimmed over the rules for Briliant Lances and Fire, 
> Fusion and Steel, and there is one thing I don't  understand:
> why are all the ship-to-ship missiles nuclear-powered laser warheads? 
> Why doesn't anyone use simple nuclear warheads instead?

They decided apriori that nothing else could makle a fire solution, then
later
that while a fire solution for kinetic energy or nuke missiles *was*
possible,
they would *all* be shot down before they reached their targets since they
would be moving in a perfectly predicible way (amazingly, even totally
*unarmed*
ships can do this!).
 
> In Brilliant Lances, the missiles have to reach the hex the target is 
> located in, so there is no advantage (in game terms) in firing a 
> laser from some (relatively close) distance, as opposed to moving 
> near the target and detonating a warhead (like better survivability 
> of the missile due to lesser likelihood of being shot down. Doesn't 
> apply if you have to reach the target's hex).
> 
Well, while the det-laser weapons should have a better shot at hitting, there
is no rational reason why you couldn't get a nuke close enough to, well, nuke
the other guy (if you can board, why can't you nuke?).  On the other hand, at
BL/BR velocities a nuke is redundant compared to the KE of the empty
missile---
not to mention the fact that dampers will stop a nuke.

> Am I missing something? Do I misinterpret a rule? Any hints?
> 
That's the way the rules are.  You'll have to use a house-rule (I *just*
posted
BR kinetic energy missile rules).

> Well, excuse my ignorance, and thanks a lot for any clues...

You're no more ignorant than the rest of us when it comes to the missile
rules 
:-)

> Joerg

-Merrick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Joerg Wegener
> E-Mail: mspjoerg@swansea.ac.uk
> Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are my own.
> 
>    "Reason can answer questions, but imagination has to ask them."
>           - Ralph N. Gerard
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 


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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:59:39 -0600 (MDT)
From: merrick@Rt66.com (Merrick Burkhardt)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: TRAVELLER digest 337
Message-ID: <9507060559.AA03075@Rt66.com>

> 
>      You're forgetting that being in the same hex isn't very close -- a hex

> is still 30,000km across. Once again, your nuclear missile is going to be 
> toasted long before it gets close to the target. That's why you use the 
> detonation laser instead.

What about unarmed, or damaged ships that can't shoot *anything*, much less a
couple hundred missiles?

If they wanted no contact missiles they should have written the rules so that
if you made one, then played it in BL it would never hit.  Instead they
decided
it would never hit, and told you you couldn't make one.

I guess the simple fix is to say that any ship that could be boarded, or any
unarmed ship at all that is hit by a contact missile is destroyed (not too
far
from the truth, actually---regardless of the ships size).  The only problem
is
that the rules as they stand say that any armed ship can destroy an
*infinite*
number of simultaneous missile attacks (who said that old scout-courier was
weak! :)

Sorry, rough day today--- Merrick

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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 12:43:39 +1100
From: Bill Currie <BILLC@teleng1.tait.co.nz>
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: OLD digests
Message-ID: <5CE9297391@teleng1.tait.co.nz>

Could someone please tell me how I can go about getting the OLD TML
digests (prior to 149) via mail.  I was able to get digests 149-336 
from the list server, but it doesn't know about 148 and befor.

ANY help would be appreciated
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